Putting Free-Riding to Work: A Partnership Solution to the Common-Property Problem
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- Heintzelman, Martin D. & Salant, Stephen W. & Schott, Stephan, 2009. "Putting free-riding to work: A Partnership Solution to the common-property problem," Journal of Environmental Economics and Management, Elsevier, vol. 57(3), pages 309-320, May.
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Keywords
partnerships; common property; tragedy of the commons; cartels;All these keywords.
JEL classification:
- Q5 - Agricultural and Natural Resource Economics; Environmental and Ecological Economics - - Environmental Economics
- L12 - Industrial Organization - - Market Structure, Firm Strategy, and Market Performance - - - Monopoly; Monopolization Strategies
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This paper has been announced in the following NEP Reports:- NEP-COM-2008-08-14 (Industrial Competition)
- NEP-MIC-2008-08-14 (Microeconomics)
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