Risk Aversion as a Perceptual Bias
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- Woodford, Michael & Li, Ziang & Khaw, Mel Win, 2017. "Risk Aversion as a Perceptual Bias," CEPR Discussion Papers 11929, C.E.P.R. Discussion Papers.
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JEL classification:
- C91 - Mathematical and Quantitative Methods - - Design of Experiments - - - Laboratory, Individual Behavior
- D80 - Microeconomics - - Information, Knowledge, and Uncertainty - - - General
- D81 - Microeconomics - - Information, Knowledge, and Uncertainty - - - Criteria for Decision-Making under Risk and Uncertainty
- D87 - Microeconomics - - Information, Knowledge, and Uncertainty - - - Neuroeconomics
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This paper has been announced in the following NEP Reports:- NEP-CBE-2017-10-29 (Cognitive and Behavioural Economics)
- NEP-EXP-2017-10-29 (Experimental Economics)
- NEP-UPT-2017-10-29 (Utility Models and Prospect Theory)
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