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On the irreconcilability of Pareto and Gibrat laws

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If business firms face a multiplicative growth process in which their growth rates are Laplace distributed and independent from their sizes, the size cannot be distributed according to a stationary Pareto distribution. Recent contributions, using formal arguments, seem to contrast with these statements. We prove that the proposed formal results are wrong.

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  • Bottazzi, Giulio, 2009. "On the irreconcilability of Pareto and Gibrat laws," Physica A: Statistical Mechanics and its Applications, Elsevier, vol. 388(7), pages 1133-1136.
  • Handle: RePEc:eee:phsmap:v:388:y:2009:i:7:p:1133-1136
    DOI: 10.1016/j.physa.2008.12.031
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